tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4042988399562625690.post8189131428832725117..comments2016-01-18T13:40:22.764-05:00Comments on In the hedge with David J: Perry Noble's bad advice and love of the worldDavid Jhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17964608030057055594noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4042988399562625690.post-14161596966475770612009-08-26T23:25:33.776-04:002009-08-26T23:25:33.776-04:00You seem to have a belief that God wants us to exe...You seem to have a belief that God wants us to exempt from everything "carnal." By reading your blog your view of carnal seems to be anything that does not explicitly state that Jehovah is Lord. Therefore, I would request you remove Song of Songs and Esther from your Bible. You also seem to be opposed to people coming to Christ situationally. If Highway to Hell brings a man to Christ, then why oppose it? Is your God so small that he cannot use that song to bring men to him? Mine isn't. As for scoreboard, Perry does not mention numbers of people in his church in the videos you linked to. He mentions the number of people being saved, families being brought back together, people's lives being changed. If you are opposed to him opposing you and others who tear down those that bring people to Christ, thus those numbers would worry you. You claim to love God and his church, but use your blog to try and hinder those who do that. Paul walked among the shrines that the people had built (no mention of Zues btw, no idea where his name came from and Paul brought nothing into any physical church building as those didn't exist then) enough to know their desires and hearts. If we walk among other people's religous texts and music and desires we would know their heart and be able to show them how Christ fills all of them. However you seem to believe that people will come and visit a place that is foreign and uncomfortable with them and listen openly to people who don't know them. You may know Mormon's religion by reading The Book of Mormon (a sin in your mind btw, shame on you for learning their ways), but they won't know that by looking at you. But if they see their texts in the church they know that we have an open mind and are willing to discuss their heart with foreknowledge and openness. Your scripture regarding cursing (Col. 3:8) does not give us a list. But with your view we must assume that anything said with a negative or angry connotation is evil. Thus every word you have said, which is meant to portray a man as a bad person and comes off as angry to readers, is evil. You my friend have broken Col. 3:8. I should start a blog. Perry Noble is not my first choice in pastors. There are things he says that I disagree with. However he has a passion for Christ and seeing people saved. If you deny that then these posted clips and angry bloggers are all you've read and heard of Noble. If you deny his ministry then you deny the work of God, for every week people come to Christ, mend broken marriages, and build a more Christ-centered life through the ministry. He is charismatic and thus people notice him the most, but he tries to bring attention to the others who do God's work elsewhere. The children's ministry workers, volunteers who counsel people, the other pastors who lead their ministries. Perry is just the Sunday speaker. If he is the face of Newspring, it is only because he is passionate and people notice passionate people. If you love God like I believe you to, then support all of His ministries, even Newspring and its affiliates.Charlienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4042988399562625690.post-88630390925486794592009-08-26T22:08:31.631-04:002009-08-26T22:08:31.631-04:00You didn't reference it anywhere in this artic...You didn't reference it anywhere in this article. You quoted scripture that just says "worldy" or "foul mouth".<br /><br />Clearly you are going to hate on Perry no matter what I try to bring up (the way I see you can not go against the Amos verse I brought up, or that you clearly have no real definition of worldly music, since you dodge everything put to you.)<br /><br />Perry may be wrong for saying scoreboard but you are just as bad if not worse.<br /><br />BTW a remedial lesson in critical thinking will show you that my arguments are linear, and you refuse to debate where they lead, therefore they are not circular.<br /><br />But go ahead and delete, ban, or just not touch on anything I have debated for.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13857512713722111676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4042988399562625690.post-28191267250868813092009-08-26T20:51:38.263-04:002009-08-26T20:51:38.263-04:00Actually the Bible does define worldly. I referenc...Actually the Bible does define worldly. I referenced it. <br /><br />Clearly you are going to defend Perry Noble no matter what the Scriptures say.<br /><br />I'm done here because I refuse to go in circles with you.David Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17964608030057055594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4042988399562625690.post-78565740426791733232009-08-26T19:59:26.817-04:002009-08-26T19:59:26.817-04:00Titus 2:11-13
NewSpring has not promoted worldly d...Titus 2:11-13<br />NewSpring has not promoted worldly desires.<br />If you wish to show that they have then you will need to define worldly (good luck cause The Bible does not define worldly)Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13857512713722111676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4042988399562625690.post-76751603932294445052009-08-26T19:57:49.580-04:002009-08-26T19:57:49.580-04:00your 2 Corinthians 6:14-17 reference is talking ab...your 2 Corinthians 6:14-17 reference is talking about marriage. NOT preaching, NOT methodology.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13857512713722111676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4042988399562625690.post-40223619973027556092009-08-26T19:54:03.843-04:002009-08-26T19:54:03.843-04:00btw it is not the use of scripture that I object t...btw it is not the use of scripture that I object too.<br />Sola ScripturaJosephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13857512713722111676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4042988399562625690.post-68869419755289099732009-08-26T19:51:35.186-04:002009-08-26T19:51:35.186-04:00But the Scriptures don't say anything about Pe...But the Scriptures don't say anything about Perry. Therefore it is your job to show why they relate. I am bringing in more scripture to show that your accusation regarding cussing does not stick.<br />So..<br />1) Amos 4:1 shows that there is Biblical precedent for caloing people names.<br />2)"One thing we must keep in mind is that Paul was dealing with false religion and not popular culture." Most of popular culture IS false religion (materialism, worshiping children) So Perry WAS dealing with false religion.<br />3) What is worldly music? I garuntee you can't give a good definition of worldly vs. sacred music. BTW Hells Bells was played, but not sung. Surely the music without the words (the notes themselves) are not worldly.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13857512713722111676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4042988399562625690.post-19968108645628499792009-08-26T19:12:51.213-04:002009-08-26T19:12:51.213-04:00You can address this issues here since this blog i...You can address this issues here since this blog is the subject of the YouTibe video. This way people who read the replies will be able to refer to this blog for more info. <br /><br />I'm not interested in questions to answer questions. I laid out the Scriptures about Perry Noble's errors and love of the world. Please address them directly.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05175785399435715153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4042988399562625690.post-89061247263760015642009-08-26T18:55:26.330-04:002009-08-26T18:55:26.330-04:00So you ban me from YouTube, because I didn't a...So you ban me from YouTube, because I didn't apologize with in 4 minutes of you asking me to?<br />I'm sorry that I thought you were blocking me before I didn't know youtube was acting slow. Will you unblock me now, so that we can continue the discussion?Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13857512713722111676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4042988399562625690.post-11979526597383894932009-08-15T19:43:11.769-04:002009-08-15T19:43:11.769-04:00How is my image of God way too small? Explain plea...How is my image of God way too small? Explain please.David Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17964608030057055594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4042988399562625690.post-21101306996384703252009-08-15T18:30:00.968-04:002009-08-15T18:30:00.968-04:00Your image of God is WAY TOO SMALL.Your image of God is WAY TOO SMALL.Jim Stevenshttp://www.jimstevens.comnoreply@blogger.com